Lyme Disease and Dry Fasting

[LadyT1919]

Hello,

I have had Lyme Disease and Co-infections for 34 years (got bit by a tick as a 4 year old, but wasn't treated). I have read "Starving to Heal" about Lyme Disease and Dry fasting and thought it was an excellent book, but for me it left some questions...
Thank you for any information! Nothing will be taken as medical advice!

1. Is it true that dry fasting can eradicate Lyme and co-infections (like Bartonella, Babesia, Mycoplasma, Ehrlichia, etc) - even if these microbes are very sophisticated in the way they evade the immune system? Can dry fasting get rid of Lyme cysts (L-forms?) How about if the bacteria are obligate intracellular organisms?

2. If #1 is true, on average (I know everyone is different), how many long dry fasts does it normally take to completely get rid of chronic Lyme and Co-infections?

3. Is there better re-feed ideas (in terms of food) on your Scorch protocol?

4. In your experience, is Ivermectin helpful for Lyme and other bacteria? If not, what do you recommend for bacterial infections (On your Scorch protocol you recommend antivirals and antifungals, but what if your main problem is bacterial?)

5. Can modified water fasting (water fast 6 hours per day, dry fast for 18 hours per day) be as successful in eradicating infections and healing the body as complete dry fasting, in your opinion?

6. Can dry fasting heal dysautonomia - especially chronic dysautonomia (due to chronic Lyme, not genetic)?

7. Any other advice that you have found very helpful with Lyme patients?

[Yannick]

Hello,

I have had Lyme Disease and Co-infections for 34 years (got bit by a tick as a 4 year old, but wasn't treated). I have read "Starving to Heal" about Lyme Disease and Dry fasting and thought it was an excellent book, but for me it left some questions...
Thank you for any information! Nothing will be taken as medical advice!

1. Is it true that dry fasting can eradicate Lyme and co-infections (like Bartonella, Babesia, Mycoplasma, Ehrlichia, etc) - even if these microbes are very sophisticated in the way they evade the immune system? Can dry fasting get rid of Lyme cysts (L-forms?) How about if the bacteria are obligate intracellular organisms?

2. If #1 is true, on average (I know everyone is different), how many long dry fasts does it normally take to completely get rid of chronic Lyme and Co-infections?

3. Is there better re-feed ideas (in terms of food) on your Scorch protocol?

4. In your experience, is Ivermectin helpful for Lyme and other bacteria? If not, what do you recommend for bacterial infections (On your Scorch protocol you recommend antivirals and antifungals, but what if your main problem is bacterial?)

5. Can modified water fasting (water fast 6 hours per day, dry fast for 18 hours per day) be as successful in eradicating infections and healing the body as complete dry fasting, in your opinion?

6. Can dry fasting heal dysautonomia - especially chronic dysautonomia (due to chronic Lyme, not genetic)?

7. Any other advice that you have found very helpful with Lyme patients?

1. After working in the Lyme community for a few years, I have seen how devastating it is. I view Lyme as Long covid on steroids, without going into the weeds about co-infections, etc. I have never run into someone who has done aggressive anti-biotic therapy and gotten better from it, although I bet in some very rare and early instances it can help, but if youre going to fall prey to it, it means your immune system is already weak and failing. Regardless, yes, there's a reason there's books like Starving to Heal, and people like Trevor who believe you need to dry fast as long as possible to heal from these issues. The problem is that with a weak immune system the virus/bacteria/pathogens/spike proteins can penetrate very deeply, and lodge in areas (reservoirs) where the body cannot touch them. At that point, most medications become useless (to a degree) and the only thing you can do is cause osmotic stress that will literally pull on the reservoirs while also dehydrating mucus, biofilms etc. Not only that, you engage extreme autophagy, and dry fasting brings in an extra type of autophagy that only occurs in a dehydrated state where it forces the cells to restructure their microtubules (This is being explored in cancer therapy right now and why some people believe fenbendazole+ivermectin cure cancer + their insulin sensitizing benefits and liver benefits). Not to mention stem cell and growth hormone benefits (the end part of the scorch is growth hormone therapy to rebuild all the damaged organs and hormone production).

2. Very difficult to answer, but I deal with a variety of cases. If someone is moderate/severe, I recommend a 3-day dry fast with a small break into a 5-day dry fast, then giving the body time to heal and using T3 therapy (look at chronic-illness.ca for slow release versions) during a glucose-oxidation-focused refeed. This is enough for 50-75% of people (not taking into consideration some peptide, fungal, and hgh final adjustments). for the more severe cases you will know that you want to fully focus on tackling the 9 day dry fast. I am not a fan of coaching people through this because it's a huge slog, so the easiest answer is to book a retreat with someone like Michel Deladoey (the only problem is his refeed style is not optimal for long term thriving, but if your HPA axis is not fried, you can still do it with a lot of success. If it is fried, you might want to look into Filonov's refeed style or his retreat, even though I think Deladoey's overall experience and fasting is more enjoyable and professional).

3. When i initially started the food recommendations were always changing, and there was no two people who could easily follow the same refeed, so I prefered to generalize. I am currently working on a few protocols for specific situations and will be releasing it under the Miro board 2.0.

4. If you have guaranteed bacterial overgrowth it makes sense, but i think in most cases your body has stabilized (or else you'd be dead, similar to a staph infection running wild), and in that case i HATE antibiotics, they breed fungal overgrowth and often make things worse. I also hate having to try to rebuild your microbiome, it is extremely difficult and anyone pretending it is simple is retarded. The only way to properly attempt to bring back a completely destroyed microbiome is breastmilk or fecal transplants from a healthy donor. I'm of the belief that you have to tackle fungal and parasitic primarily, while its ok to leave viral and bacterial to be dealt with by the body as you focus to improve the immune system (immune system improves when you lower fungal and parasitic loads, while building up your thyroidal system (requires good glucose oxidation) to work better, which increases energy in the body, which allows you to absorb nutrients better, increases temperature, and increases immune system production, all which deal with fungus.

5. No, while for people who don't have deep seated problems that require the osmotic stress, it is fine. For the more severe ones, a water fast will never do the same thing as pushing you to the edge with dehydration stress.

6. It has the ability to provide aggressive resets to the HPA/HPT axis, but it also can suppress the HPT, and overload the HPA. For some people the fasting in itself will heal dysautonomia, but i wouldn't put a guarantee on it. Dysautonomia techniques and strategies need to be part of the refeed to reverse it, and in the beginning that might mean supplements and medications for immune health, sleep, and relaxation.

7. The longer you have Lyme, the longer it will take to heal.